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0bama's questionable acquaintances on Hannity's America... - 10/4/2008 5:03:39 PM
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ManimalX
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Hannity's America on Sunday is going to be a full hour dedicated to 0bama's shady friends and acquaintances. 0bama's friend, the unrepentant terrorist William Ayers and his terrorist wife Bernadine D0rn. 0bama's mentor of 20 years, the racist and hateful Jeremiah Wright. 0bama's real estate buddy, the convicted felon Ant0in "T0ny" Rezk0. Plus, I am sure Hannity will probably mention 0bama's communist father, his racist and bitter wife, and his marching with the Jew hating racist Screwy L0uis Farrakhan. I am curious what other shady characters 0bama associates with.
This thread is to comment on the show Sunday, as well as 0bam's shady acquaintances and what they mean for an 0bama presidency.
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RE: 0bama's questionable acquaintances on Hannity's Ame... - 10/4/2008 7:09:45 PM
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Hannity's America on Sunday is going to be a full hour dedicated to 0bama's shady friends and acquaintances. 0bama's friend, the unrepentant terrorist William Ayers and his terrorist wife Bernadine D0rn. 0bama's mentor of 20 years, the racist and hateful Jeremiah Wright. 0bama's real estate buddy, the convicted felon Ant0in "T0ny" Rezk0. Plus, I am sure Hannity will probably mention 0bama's communist father, his racist and bitter wife, and his marching with the Jew hating racist Screwy L0uis Farrakhan. I am curious what other shady characters 0bama associates with.
This thread is to comment on the show Sunday, as well as 0bam's shady acquaintances and what they mean for an 0bama presidency.
I think there is room in Obama's cabinet for all his friends.
Rezko - Sec. of Housing
Ayers - Sec of Defense
Dorn - Sec of Interior
Farrakhan - Sec of State.
And let's not forget Frank Raines - Sec of Treasury.
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RE: 0bama's questionable acquaintances on Hannity's Ame... - 10/4/2008 7:16:24 PM
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Man, in this election's home stretch the desperation is getting pungent from the right. Hannity beat these dead horses into the ground six months ago.
This is beginning to get downright comical.
As of today, Obama has jumped ahead in several swing state polls (including Virginia and Florida), and his opponents have no retort except to get into a cesspool, and sling what's there.
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RE: 0bama's questionable acquaintances on Hannity's Ame... - 10/4/2008 8:17:06 PM
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Man, in this election's home stretch the desperation is getting pungent from the right. Hannity beat these dead horses into the ground six months ago.
This is beginning to get downright comical.
As of today, Obama has jumped ahead in several swing state polls (including Virginia and Florida), and his opponents have no retort except to get into a cesspool, and sling what's there.
You know the old adage, "A man is known by the company he keeps".
I think Hannity is trying to apply that adage to Obama... you and I can take it or leave it. Personally, I find much of this revealing and disturbing. We need to know all there is.
It might be a cesspool... but if Obama was in it we need to know.
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RE: 0bama's questionable acquaintances on Hannity's Ame... - 10/4/2008 8:49:38 PM
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You know the old adage, "A man is known by the company he keeps".
Obama's connections with Ayres over time have been casual, at best. This whole desperate story is a ghost.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/us/politics/04ayers.html?_r=2&ref=politics&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
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RE: 0bama's questionable acquaintances on Hannity's Ame... - 10/4/2008 8:52:05 PM
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Man, in this election's home stretch the desperation is getting pungent from the right. Hannity beat these dead horses into the ground six months ago.
This is beginning to get downright comical.
As of today, Obama has jumped ahead in several swing state polls (including Virginia and Florida), and his opponents have no retort except to get into a cesspool, and sling what's there.
No desperation at all. Its just that we on the right have to repeat ourselves about a billion times before the dominant liberal mass media begins to dribble out truth to the ignorant masses. If 0bama just had one or even two questionable relationships, it wouldn't be such a big deal, but it seems like the only relationships he HAS are with shady low characters. This SHOULD set off some alarm bells in any normal brained American.
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RE: 0bama's questionable acquaintances on Hannity's Ame... - 10/4/2008 9:04:39 PM
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No desperation at all. Its just that we on the right have to repeat ourselves about a billion times before the dominant liberal mass media begins to dribble out truth to the ignorant masses.
This is a dead story. Colder than Julius Caesar.
Hannity bellowed it for weeks this spring, and (to his wonderment) nothing caught traction - much the same as Jerome Corsi's poorly-researched book on Obama caused a temporary splash before then sinking to the bottom of the ocean.
Blaming the big bad wolf media for all of McCain's problems is a sham.
It's no conspiracy. He's just losing.
And his campaign is trying to divert attention from other issues (the economy) by making as much noise as possible - much as Bush Sr. and Dole did in 1992 and 1996 (respectively) when they were losing to Clinton.
I don't think McCain is sunk yet, but if current trends remain taut over the next 30 days he will be.
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RE: 0bama's questionable acquaintances on Hannity's Ame... - 10/4/2008 9:16:40 PM
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No desperation at all. Its just that we on the right have to repeat ourselves about a billion times before the dominant liberal mass media begins to dribble out truth to the ignorant masses.
This is a dead story. Colder than Julius Caesar.
Translation: please don't bring up 0bama's shady relationships because it reveals a bit of who he really is.
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Hannity bellowed it for weeks this spring, and (to his wonderment) nothing caught traction - much the same as Jerome Corsi's poorly-researched book on Obama caused a temporary splash before then sinking to the bottom of the ocean.
Hannity was almost a year ahead of the Wright story. He harped on it all of the time. And what finally happened? The dominant liberal mass media finally had to pay attention to it, 0bama went all wishy-washy, and he no has a permanent black mark on his record in many American eyes. Repeating truth until it sticks isn't such a bad thing.
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Blaming the big bad wolf media for all of McCain's problems is a sham.
It's no conspiracy. He's just losing.
Not so much... the race is statistically pretty close, and if 0bama doesn't go into election day with a solid 10-15 point lead he will lose. McCain certainly does his best to bring his own poll numbers down by not shouting 0bama's many flaws from the rooftops, but you have to be a vegetable to deny the way the media fawns over their messiah. 0bama gets all of the positive spin, McCain and Palin get squat.
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RE: 0bama's questionable acquaintances on Hannity's Ame... - 10/4/2008 9:19:28 PM
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Translation: please don't bring up 0bama's shady relationships because it reveals a bit of who he really is.
Translation: This "story" has been debunked. There's no "there" there.
But hey, believe whatever you want.
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Hannity was almost a year ahead of the Wright story. He harped on it all of the time. And what finally happened? The dominant liberal mass media finally had to pay attention to it, 0bama went all wishy-washy, and he no has a permanent black mark on his record in many American eyes.
The story was ignored until Obama became a viable candidate. Then it washed around a few media cycles, and burned itself out.
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Not so much... the race is statistically pretty close
Go check out the current state polling at RCP. McCain is lagging behind Obama in nearly every battleground state, including FL and VA.
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and if 0bama doesn't go into election day with a solid 10-15 point lead he will lose.
Because of the racist vote? You may be right. If so, I will be utterly disgusted.
For the record: if people want to vote (or not) for a candidate based on specific issues or party loyalties, fine. Go for it.
But if ultimately the reason Obama is defeated boils down to race, then America (IMO) is a shameful nation ruled by zombie-like bigots.
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RE: 0bama's questionable acquaintances on Hannity's Ame... - 10/4/2008 9:22:14 PM
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Translation: please don't bring up 0bama's shady relationships because it reveals a bit of who he really is.
Translation: This "story" has been debunked. There's no "there" there.
But hey, believe whatever you want.
Not so fast. If there is nothing to any of these stories why did Obama throw his former pastor under the bus after saying he could no more disown his pastor than he could the African American population?
Seems to me alll the ruckus about Wright had an impact because it was true.
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RE: 0bama's questionable acquaintances on Hannity's Ame... - 10/4/2008 9:28:27 PM
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Not so fast. If there is nothing to any of these stories why did Obama throw his former pastor under the bus after saying he could no more disown his pastor than he could the African American population?
No doubt, Wright's vitriol became a threat to Obama's candidacy. But I don't blame him for cutting ties.
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RE: 0bama's questionable acquaintances on Hannity's Ame... - 10/4/2008 9:32:24 PM
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I don't think McCain is sunk yet, but if current trends remain taut over the next 30 days he will be.
I agree with you on this. This race has been just as volatile as the stock market and could easily swing one way and then back again. Despite many things stacked in his favor, Senator Obama has yet to be able to close the deal. It's going to be interesting to see how the last 4 weeks play out.
I disagree that the media hasn't played a role in this. The merchants of information have been decidedly pro-Obama. Senator McCain hasn't done himself too many favors the past two weeks, but the media certainly has been anything but unbiased in their coverage.
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RE: 0bama's questionable acquaintances on Hannity's Ame... - 10/5/2008 5:53:45 AM
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To get elected you have to sell your soul. Its why many people do not want to be president..its a moral step down to accomplish the deal.
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RE: 0bama's questionable acquaintances on Hannity's Ame... - 10/6/2008 12:05:29 AM
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Anyone watch the show? Extremely revealing. 0bama is one shady cat. When I have more time I will try to comment in more detail.
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RE: 0bama's questionable acquaintances on Hannity's Ame... - 10/6/2008 4:06:26 AM
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My wife's cousin's ex-boyfriend is in prison. He was once a guest in my home. Would you think it fair if someone used this "questionable acquaintance" against me? This is the kind of nonsense the Republicans are trying to do to Obama. Quilt by association is a LOGICAL FALLACY. It's rubbish. It's a big fat smokescreen to distract voters from the real issue, the economy, which McCain is losing on badly.
Since the Republicans have stooped this low, the Obama campaign is now forced to remind the American public that while Obama knew some people who were crooks, John McCain was a card-carrying member of the Keating 5. (I think he played keyboards.)
Next, I hope McCain gets so desperate, he goes back on his promise not to use the Rev. Wright material. Then the Obama campaign can just start running ads featuring the YouTube video clips of McCain's many boneheaded moments from the campaign trail. (See John McCain's YouTube Probelm Just Became a Nightmare) Every American should have the opportunity to see what a presidential candidate who finished 5th from the bottom of his 900-member graduating class sounds like.
Given McCain's past involvement in a political corruption scandal and the current investigation into Palin's abuse of power, Obama should beware that the GOP doesn't try to accuse him of having such questionable acquaintances as McCain and Palin.
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RE: 0bama's questionable acquaintances on Hannity's Ame... - 10/6/2008 12:17:06 PM
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My wife's cousin's ex-boyfriend is in prison. He was once a guest in my home. Would you think it fair if someone used this "questionable acquaintance" against me? This is the kind of nonsense the Republicans are trying to do to Obama. Quilt by association is a LOGICAL FALLACY. It's rubbish. It's a big fat smokescreen to distract voters from the real issue, the economy, which McCain is losing on badly.
Since the Republicans have stooped this low, the Obama campaign is now forced to remind the American public that while Obama knew some people who were crooks, John McCain was a card-carrying member of the Keating 5. (I think he played keyboards.)
Next, I hope McCain gets so desperate, he goes back on his promise not to use the Rev. Wright material. Then the Obama campaign can just start running ads featuring the YouTube video clips of McCain's many boneheaded moments from the campaign trail. (See John McCain's YouTube Probelm Just Became a Nightmare) Every American should have the opportunity to see what a presidential candidate who finished 5th from the bottom of his 900-member graduating class sounds like.
Given McCain's past involvement in a political corruption scandal and the current investigation into Palin's abuse of power, Obama should beware that the GOP doesn't try to accuse him of having such questionable acquaintances as McCain and Palin.
I do not even know where to begin with this illogical argument that is loaded with quite of bit of mis-information. First of all, Obama sought out Ayres knowing about his background ... and Ayres helped him pave his way into politics. Obama's official launch into the race was in Ayres' living room. If your wife's boyfriend remained unrepentant for what he did and threw you a very public party announcing your run for office, yes I would hold that relation against you.
The Keating five, McCain was CLEARED, exonerated, absolved, vindicated of any wrong doing ... even so he stated he used poor judgment in placing himself with these people and is wiser for it.
The trooper thing ... fire Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan stated on CNN's "who is Sarah Palin?" that he was never told that he was fired because of refusing to fire trooper Mike Wooten. He also stated in the interview that the Governor never talked to him about Mr. Wooten. He stated he felt that was the underlining reason for his dismissal, but it was a gut reaction on his part. He was not outright fired either, he was offered another position, but turned it down.
Einstein flunked out of school as a youngster ... but his name has become interchangeable with the word genius. I know of many competent leaders who did not graduate at the top of their class ... in fact a few who came close to flunking out in their younger years. They learned from those earlier mistakes (we are talking 50 years ago for McCain here) and are much wiser for it. Some of the wisest older folks I know were screw ups in their younger years ... they received a PhD from the school of hard knocks which has molded them into amazing human beings. Making mistakes is only a problem when you do not learn from those mistakes. By all accounts, McCain has done just that ... I have yet to see anyone bring anything up from his recent past that would cause me to re-think my opinion of him.
By contrast, all of Obama's association and lapse of judgment when it comes to relationships are recent ... which makes sense because he is still a young man. And I do not wish to have a young man such as Obama, who has difficulty admitting he has made a mistake (he still refuses to admit he was wrong about the surge) to lead me. I much rather have a repentant, wise for the ware older person lead. He's been there and has learned from both his successes and failures.
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RE: 0bama's questionable acquaintances on Hannity's Ame... - 10/6/2008 12:57:42 PM
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King Solomon wrote in Proverbs to not associate with someone who has unresolved anger in his spirit. ...Some of Obama's associates seem to have that and that makes me wonder about his character.
By the same token, though, McCain has seroius anger issues. Cursing and saying "F U" to reporters all the time.
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RE: 0bama's questionable acquaintances on Hannity's Ame... - 10/6/2008 1:59:15 PM
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King Solomon wrote in Proverbs to not associate with someone who has unresolved anger in his spirit. ...Some of Obama's associates seem to have that and that makes me wonder about his character.
By the same token, though, McCain has seroius anger issues. Cursing and saying "F U" to reporters all the time.
McCain is not the only politician with that problem.
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RE: 0bama's questionable acquaintances on Hannity's Ame... - 10/6/2008 5:02:59 PM
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Seems like a case of desperation, when they stoop to this.
When you are afraid to talk about real issues, you try to make the election about trivialities, rumor and innuendo, and distortion.
This is why people are sick of the same old politics, the same old Karl Rove playbook.
If you're tired of nasty irrelevant personal attacks on Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin, take a stand and DO something: reject using that sort of garbage against Sen. Obama.
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RE: 0bama's questionable acquaintances on Hannity's Ame... - 10/6/2008 5:14:23 PM
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If you're tired of nasty irrelevant personal attacks on Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin, take a stand and DO something: reject using that sort of garbage against Sen. Obama.
For some reason I just remembered an old joke about bringing a knife to a gun fight.
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RE: 0bama's questionable acquaintances on Hannity's Ame... - 10/6/2008 5:21:15 PM
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Seems like a case of desperation, when they stoop to this.
When you are afraid to talk about real issues, you try to make the election about trivialities, rumor and innuendo, and distortion.
This is why people are sick of the same old politics, the same old Karl Rove playbook.
If you're tired of nasty irrelevant personal attacks on Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin, take a stand and DO something: reject using that sort of garbage against Sen. Obama.
It's not desperation but getting the truth out about who 0bama really is. He has no real record of accomplishments to refer back to other than community organizing, state senator and a half term as US Senator half of which he's been campaigning. If the media had put half the effort they did with digging for dirt on Palin then the world would know these nefarious connections.
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RE: 0bama's questionable acquaintances on Hannity's Ame... - 10/6/2008 7:21:36 PM
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It's not desperation but getting the truth out about who 0bama really is. He has no real record of accomplishments to refer back to other than community organizing, state senator and a half term as US Senator half of which he's been campaigning. If the media had put half the effort they did with digging for dirt on Palin then the world would know these nefarious connections.
Steph:
If you're unsure about Barack Obama, who he is and what he stands for, there are plenty of good places to find out.
What we want to know about thes candidates is: how would the govern if they are elected? To find out what Barack would do if he's elected, we can look back on his experience that you've already described: how he's voted in the Illinios and US Senate. What are the issues he's worked on.
You could look at his positions on major issues:
positions on major issues
He lays it out in his biography, "The Audacity of Hope".
He's been giving speeches and engaging in debates for nine months now- there are plenty on YouTube.
If you're concerned about allegations of involvement with Black nationalism, this is a wonderful speech he wrote, and gave:
"A More Perfect Union"
There are lots of valuable, informative places to learn about him for someone who still feels like they don't know him.
I would suggest that a supposed 'expose' on the Sean Hannity program about some people Obama met once upon a time is not a good indicator as to his character or ability to govern this country.
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